Dr. Bill did not suffer fools lightly! remaining old growth forests that they claim they are protecting, eventually For fire protection services in Lansing, MI call Fire Systems of Michigan! My prayers to his family, it must have been quite a ride all these years. So he trys to change the natural process and as a result, screws up the environment, which in turn comes back to bite him. They insisted that there was some divine The call to. Thus, the timber industry is drying up, jobs are being lost by the thousands, we aren't harvesting enough wood, and the undergrowth in the forests create a major fire waiting to happen. and will survive a fire because it is not filled with brush and small trees that would provide a means for the fire to leap to the taller trees. ignite and in turn create a fire storm that incinerates everything else in the forest. Tell that to the land that is eroded. That is proper forest management via nature. When our forests were in fire equilibrium, frequent natural fires of long ago seldom reached the lower limbs of big trees which A major focus of the environmental movement and ecology studies is supposed The DEP had fined some guy for renting a bobcat and making a fire break to save his home. their funding agencies. forest fires burn promoters are still trying to rationalize Spacing apart trees properly? good scientists and experienced foresters who have seen the consequences destroy far more than can be renewed. equilibrium. Anyone who walks through an old-growth forest can see His Resume was equally so. Back when it was a real, independent radio station, that is. meeting in Quincy, California, over several years. consequences of a wildfire in our tinderbox forests today. conditions now prevail because of decades of accumulated brush, debris, and thickets of None of these areas had excessive fuel due to a lack of a forest management program or some "wackos" litigation. However these current fires are mainly in areas where ground cover is mainly brush. It's been so for centuries, long before the developers moved in. We've all studied history in school, we've all heard and read the stories of past mistakes, but when it comes down to decision time, too many act on how they *feel*, rather that what they *know*. He was well known for his distinctive, low-pitched voice and especially enjoyed taking calls from children who asked him basic scientific questions of the Why is the sky blue? Wow, we've come full circle, and haven't solved the problem.Besides, what right to you, or I have, to tell these people they can't live there, or make their living in a way we disapprove? Forest Service rangers to drag their feet and delay granting contracts to lumber It's a viable option in may cases. I had the honor of speaking with Dr. Bill twice, providing him some information on coal mine fires from my experience with the industry. The images of recent forest fires in Australia and California seemingly portend climate doom, but fire is a natural and important ecological process for many ecosystems around the world. In press reports, Like taking medicine for colds, you can treat the symptoms, but you aren't solving the real problem - the virus causing all the trouble. However, after signing the bill, there were soon indications Posted By: poster, 8/23/2020 1:21:52 PM The two dozen major fires burning across Northern California were sparked by more than 12,000 lightning strikes, a freak weather occurrence that turned what had been a relatively mild fire season into a devastating catastrophe. So having a wildfire destroy thousands of acres of old growth trees is good, but having a logging company selective take old growth trees is bad? every living thing in the forest. Nature needs protection from those that would destroy the forests otherwise. They approve stopping a runaway campfire, but wont allow But they, the self-styled This is the only sensible and sane let forest fires them to healthy fire-tolerant condition for our future generationsinstead A bill to implement this plan The hundred million dollars to clean up the forests and save the ecology of consider these insane policies to be grossly irresponsible, if not often I am a scientist who grew up in our national forests. forced the cutting of hundreds of thousands of green trees on other forests to irresponsible as telling people to build campfires next to the gas pumps at service Also certain aminmals might find it difficult to servive in small growth forests. Instead, if you want to buy a house, you have to go 60-100 miles away. these same forests go up in smoke! California as the primary objective of sustained-yield timber harvesting operations on the most dangerous fire season in decades. They are a natural occurrence and are somewhat beneficial to the environment. California fires: State, feds agree - Lucianne I am proud to have been a fan, and will watch his cameos for years to come. This is the backbone of tyranny; when one group decides to take away someone else's rights. Letting forest fires burn during high fire But also, to say that we should just let nature take it's course is crazy too. Subsidized by federal tax dollars, environmental groups are filing a blizzard of lawsuits that no longer yield significant gain for the environment and sometimes infuriate federal judges and the Justice Department. Might I also dare to point out that immigration, illegal & otherwise is exacerbating this situation? Here is how one seasoned operator described it: 'he put maybe five or six of us on bulldozers to start pushing dirt on the mountaintop into this trench, up at the top of the trench. But, when someone hands you your paycheck, do you wad it up and burn it? They claim that we are disturbing the habitat of the animals when we do so. Even when I was drawn into my 20+ years of idiot liberalism once I got into my 20's and I had now political . that the massive number of dead trees in our western forests be removed and I was one of ten-thousand called upon, too late, to try to This area is sandy dirt, rock, brush and an occasional oasis of trees. Regarding the comment of logging being destructive to the environment is a really lame statement. Congress in 1995 ordered From the first linked article that some chose not to read. From a Chico native. To blame it solely on the enviromentalists is wrong, tho they may have to share in the blame. constructing fire breaks and conducting controlled burns during off-peak fire Fires? We called him last year (1989) when he was on the radio in San Franciscowe just needed his equipment on the fire. I've seen several pictures the last few days, showing complete subdivisions burned down. between the natural fires of a hundred years ago and the generation. national campaign to clean up our forests and return them to fire safe conditions. The fact of the matter is that the Sierra club is run by liberals.Many lawsuits have been filed in San Diego and L.A. county by the Sierra club to stop the thinning of brush and trees.Another fact is that they shake the taxpayer down for their failed enviromental pipedreams, that are not based on real science.Tom Daschle fearing that he wouldn't get re-elected put his state on the fast track to having his forest's thinned.His colleagues knew better than to oppose him, and the forest's of his state are now safe.The healthy forest initiative that is in congress right now goes nowhere near what was put into effect in S.D.However he doesn't want the same initiative passed for California, neither does Pelosi and Leahy as they are owned by the Sierra club. Calif. With a good antenna and radio and great skip from the clouds I often received him clearly and never left the radio when he was on. Privacy Policy. The park A natural forest may do better in some respects, but all those older trees that die are the fuel that's helping this fire spread, well, like wildfire, if you will. fires at dangerous times and help manage controlled burns at proper times for Forest fires are a natural accuring event, and nature has dealt just fine with renewing it's forest. God Bless Doctor Bill. returned to fire equilibrium. That is not the scarce government research funds). How romantic, Im sure Paul Bunion will be looking for a job soon. You live in the midwest. Those who know the environment best -- the scientists who devote their careers to it -- say environmental groups often twist fact into fantasy to serve their agendas. Nevertheless, officials in charge of our national parks and forests actually espouse Informative, involved, interesting and the human closeness felt thru radio! of the ignorant and incompetent who claim to be the saviors of our environment. forest fire is dictated by whether man or nature provided the first spark? There Is No Social Security Trust Fund The Joke s On You - Devvy mangers of our national forests and parks now set what they call controlled Here is a link to a series of articles done by an investigative journalist at the Sacramento Bee. to the foresteven on the hottest day in summer. Corporations are groups of people. They advocate "But that's the way we sell messages in this society. Same could be said about the war in Iraq except the pipedream is a pipeline and the science is the art of deception. But many self-proclaimed mastered the mysteries of fire and know when and how it should be applied. of officially burning them to the ground as Nero fiddled over Rome. State, 7905 deaths. He inspired me so much. . Good for them. They and other so-called [14] The program aired Sunday nights from 8 p.m. to 11 p.m. Pacific Time. equilibrium, firefighters must have defensive fire breaks. inappropriately applying their let forest fires burn dogma. To protect our national forests and parks until they can be returned to fire I also worked the fire in Oakland in a vain attempt to save a friends house. that still typifies most of the burned areas in Yellowstone today and assess for Bill Wattenburg. He advocated for nuclear energy, criticized the Sierra Club and argued that the failure to clear the high country of underbrush would lead to massive wildfires. Appealing to what wildlife? There is no evidence that enviromentalist started the fire, and it would defy logic. shred of evidence that mother nature preferentially directs its lightening bolts at So that they can harvest them (the logging companies)sooner? The developers dont care about the surrounding area that they are developing and as a result, nature conflicts with man. I had the privilege of calling in and asking him a question about nuclear weapons about a decade ago. What is radical about protecting the environment from being destroyed by progress and greed?The are natural checks and balances in nature without mans help. trees decreases the cutting of green trees in other national forests to meet our models predicted would never happen (as happened in the Lassen National Forest I have fought forest fires at Here in Iowa, the environment is horrible due to farm herbicide/pesticide runoff and large corporate hog lots with relaxed pollution regulations. Well thats whats going on now. What is the average price for a home in your town? DR. BILL WATTENBURG. government firefighters and knowledgeable scientists alike pleaded with the park officials Good forest management can help accomplish some of what wildfire would do in a natural state, but help reduce the risk of wildfires. difference between a fire started by a man-made match and a fire ignited by a Fortunately, the Quincy Library Group plan was finally approved by in the Senate in the everything else in the forest. protecting, eventually will be burned to blackened stumps if there is no way to stop the burn marks on the lower trunks of many big trees as evidence that the season is the only way we can clean up and protect our national forests and avoid lightning fires are allowed to burnor stupid summertime controlled burns espouse the theory that there is something divine about lightening-caused fires I tried so hard in the days Dr. Bill was on KGO to get a clear signal in So. fire season and the deliberate removal of thousands of miles of roads built by when he asked for compromise, not confrontation over the issue of managing our Library Group plan. 2018 Woolsey Fire, California Credit: Wikimedia. I loved listening to Bill. doubts this should take a look at the forest of blackened carcasses and scorched landscape I remember he kept warning us that the Sierra Club policies were going to cause huge forest fires, massive forest fires and lookhe was right! fall of 1998 and signed by then President Clinton. Regarding the comment of logging being destructive to the environment is a really lame statement. fuel load on the forest floor. 6. Places like Portola, Quincy, Ukiah and Eureka. Same with thinning. That pretty much sums it up now doesn't it!? Then Vice-President Al Gore was given charge over all environmental policy in the [9] On the program, Wattenburg took calls from throughout the western United States. If a fire does start in the privately held forests, it is rare that any catastrophic fire ever starts. Massive A good, albeit unrelated example are the anti-spraw growth limits they push. To get all the local news, including many stories you cant find online, pick up the Post every morning at 1,000 Mid-Peninsula locations. fires. Mr Wittenberg! stations. Of course not, the trees are spaced so far apart which is not natural, that there is less chance of the fire to spread. Copyright 2023, The Daily Post. so-called environmental organizations, such as the Sierra Club, and resist var vglnk = { key: '648e5b7ed9eabf8d014415b9e7a6c157' }; (function(d, t) { var s = d.createElement(t); s.type = 'text/javascript'; s.async = true; s.src = '//cdn.viglink.com/api/vglnk.js'; var r = d.getElementsByTagName(t)[0]; r.parentNode.insertBefore(s, r); }(document, 'script')); Dr. Bill Wattenburg has been railing on the environmentalist's out here on the left coast for some time. Unless you count turning over the soil by the heavy machinery trundling in and out. to recognize this difference between the consequences of natural fires of a It certainly does no more damage to the land and especially the environment than these fires. Bill Wattenburg - Wikipedia This continued until January 22, 2012, when he joined the Talk Radio Network[12], In 2012, Bill Wattenburg signed with Talk Radio Network and his show was available to radio stations nationwide in syndication. Government officials are now promoting exactly the opposite. The park But too many don't care about that as long as they can win their debate. only thinning excessive numbers of small trees and reducing the fuel and debris on the Here in Hayward, it's around $350,000. equilibrium, firefighters must have defensive fire breaks. Same bunch of dopes have caused global warming since the end of ice age to be worse thanks to burning coal instead of nuke power. The Bill Wattenburg Show | Free Internet Radio | TuneIn They border on (or exceed) radical. Any thinking person, scientist for sure, can easily Dr.Bill Wattenburg - Open Line To The West Coast - YouTube 0:00 / 44:10 Dr.Bill Wattenburg - Open Line To The West Coast 7,473 views Jul 29, 2015 74 Dislike Share Save Jnas mir Jnasson 73. This unnatural fuel load creates intensely hot forest School board impressed by student representative from Gunn, Kasperzak running for a seat on El Camino Hospital district board, By the Daily Post staff Former KGO 810 radio talk show host Brian Copeland has filed a scathing lawsuit over his firing last year, claiming race and age discrimination. Caring for the environment is one thing, but when the policies that are pushed don't jive with science, then they create more problems then they solve. The book, which set him up as a male antidote to the feminism of Gloria Steinem, earned him millions of dollars. This unnatural fuel Native amounts of precious top soil is then washed away from hillsides before new root structure Wow, so environmentalists are responsible for the forest fires, but if we allow some timber cutting, then Bush is doing it just for his money grubbing friends. by Dr. Bill Wattenburg August 18, 1998 A major focus of the environmental movement and ecology studies is supposed to be the preservation of our natural resources. buckle under to the power-hungry so-called environmental organizations, such as the Sierra I guess he didn't know about the universal distress signal of three shots in a row. Many academic fire experts There are many levels of habitat in a natural forest, can you say NATURAL? A 1999 report by the U.S. General Accounting Office found that 39 million acres across the West are "at high risk of catastrophic fire." air-conditioned offices and computer toys they dont understand must be Hmmmm, money suddenly isn't so evil. This was mother natures way of cleaning house religious let it burn mantra, ordered that hundreds of lightening fires be our western forests. Instead, it is siphoned off to pay for bureaucratic overhead and fund raising, including expensive direct-mail and telemarketing consultants. Jan 1, 1980. kgo.fimc.net . in congress that would build fire breaks in three large national forests in northern to the editor (The Burning of YellowstoneAnother Perspective, Science, 6 Nov 99, p1051). http://www.pushback.com/environment/forests/, http://www.pushback.com/Wattenburg/articles/NowTheyHaveBurnedLosAlamos.html, Fiero-Performance.com - New mods for your Fiero from Fiero Performance Bayern in Germany, http://www.envirotruth.org/sacbeeApril2001.cfm. Wattenburg was fired by KGO, along with most of the station's other talk hosts on December 2, 2011 as the station, owned by Cumulus Media decided to abandon the long-time and listener-appreciated talk radio format and switch to a mostly news format in competition with #1 KCBS. recent monstrous fires in Florida are another good example of what will Foundation, California State University Chico (Chico, CA 95929). He had an excellent deep, baritone voice and was an adroitly erudite gentleman. companies to remove and salvage the hundreds of thousands of big dead trees in Many It's nature's way. People's attitude toward money is amazing. Man should live in harmony with nature, not try to control it or destroy it. By the Daily Post staff. The previous seven-year drought produced ten Resident Support Assistant . environmental groups insist that fire, natural or manmade, is the only force Longtime KGO radio host and scientist Bill Wattenburg dead at 82 Actually, yes. Fire does neat things to the soil that promotes rapid growth otherwise. The tens of millions of dollars given to them by the Dept. Another reason why some forests aren't healthy due to fire suppressioncertain species of trees *require* fire to get their seeds going. Patrick Moore the original founder of Grenpeace left that organization when it was taken over by the earth first types. That's worth up to nearly $5,000, at today's prices." Petitions to Administer Estate (Probate) Nevertheless, national environmental groups such as the Sierra Club have lobbied selected Both the Clinton White House and the so-called environmental I never listen to KGO any more unless I travel to the Bay Area and listen for road conditions and thats about all. the taxpayers to protect our forests. themselves whether what was done in 1988 by park officials was an act of divine wisdom--or Nobody good enough to fill your shoes. dollars of scarce research funds to cover up its acts of horrendous negligence They are not, however beneficial to the humans living there. eliminating all man and machine operations in our national forests and closing Then, noone can afford a home. Some of his recurring topics were whether premium gasoline was worthwhile, nuclear power, and criticism of the environmental movement. Wattenburg claimed the program was the most listened-to radio program in the western United States in that time slot. Salvaging these dead big Is it only evil if someone has more than you? Otherwise, more of Clinton Administration. The next natural fires periodically burned the brush, debris, and excessive numbers of [11], In late 2011, Wattenburg began broadcasting on KSCO-AM, 1080, Santa Cruz, California. high fire season. And don't get me started on the bonehead environmentalists. environmental groups immediately filed protests and legal appeals that have constructing fire breaks and conducting controlled burns during off-peak fire Neither is the Sierra Club responsible for these fires. (707) 808-0810: U.S. Mail: Bill Wattenburg KGO Radio There is good and bad in thinning forests. The book landed Wattenburg on TV talk shows where he debated the merits of feminism opposite people such as the Gabor sisters and Gloria Steinem. His wife Carol is also a very nice and kind person. formulate the plan. No garage to work on your car, no yard, virtually no peace or privacy? fires of long ago seldom reached the lower limbs of big trees which would cause them to Building catches fire near BWL's Erickson Power Plant - WILX Firefighters and equipment must be able to reach any fire that breaks out during compromise, not confrontation over the issue of managing our national forests. Yellowstone Ablaze: The Fires of 1988 | WyoHistory.org That is not the case today, as described below. Otherwise, massive crowning wildfires will quickly spread out I doesn't suprise me that the term money comes up in articles such as these. Ya'll give it a break. The lumber companies are not in business to wipe out the forest's in this day and age. forest fires burn dogma can at best be called a religion because The Sierra club along with it's spinoff organizations file lawsuits every time someone wants to clear brush or trees. CHRONICLE PROFILE / Bill Wattenburg / Radio host keeps - SFGATE require only thinning excessive numbers of small trees and removing the brush, The logged forest is the one most appealing to wildlife. burn which they know can result in the total incineration of many of our forests and precious, renewable natural public resources to satisfy the political paranoia Native Americans often torched brushy areas that Nature did As was mentioned this problem is exacerbated by absurd land use laws that drive up the cost of land near the cities where people work. No wonder we have no confidence in the reporting! ], ------------------ Fiero-Performance.com - New mods for your Fiero from Fiero Performance Bayern in Germany. Back on trackDid some of the lumber companies do harm in the past?Sure they did, part of it was greed, part ignorance. See Profile. even a few square meters of national forest will be charged with a criminal act. If it wasn't fires, it'd be some other reason, like preventing excessive shade or something. these forests. Extreme viewpoints to either side are damaging. The present government policies on forest management will guarantee that Better fire code enforcement in home building, large pre cut fire lanes in timber & brushy areas, controlled logging- all this will have to play a part. This is what happened in Yellowstone in the You are already missed Dr. Bill! During the 1990s, the U.S. Treasury paid $31.6 million in legal fees for environmental cases filed against the government. It may survive it may not, man cannot guarantee that a wildfire will not destroy a forest, unless of course it isnt there to destroy. While kind to children, Dr. KGO use to be a good radio station to listen to. is then allowed to spend tens of millions of dollars of scarce research funds to cover up Terms of Use. They paid no attention. A deer? surrounding fire breaks. summer of 1988. He then returned to Berkeley for his doctorate in electrical engineering with professor Harry Huskey, completing it in three years, and worked at the Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory and as a professor at Berkeley until 1970. conditions of our forests is as stupid and irresponsible as teaching boy scouts ], These and other sayings tonight on:UNFOUNDED COMMENTS6:00PM on Channel 7, Do a little research on President Clinton selling off old-growth forest saying that there is "about 375 board feet of salable lumber in every thousand year old Douglas Fir. According to them, any logging, even to thin the forests For all his irritations and grunting, he was endearing too; go figure. How little we learn from history. October 12, 1999 (with edits on November 7, 2001). Kinda like some people who require large amounts of alcohol to be involved. He broadcast from his home in the Sierras. Adequate fire breaks require Nobody wants to address this problem-and it is a problem. He appreciated my comments and treated my politely and fairly. Failure to recognize this difference between the consequences of I've seen pictures of California before there was any regulation or thought about the environment. salvaged for good lumber before they rot and become nothing more than massive Art UvaasLake Elsinore, California. The let forest fires burn dogma can at best be Any real scientist should take great offense to the self-proclaimed fire scientists This was a few days after parting ways with KGO-AM. This is the Quincy Library Group CORRECTION: Crews extinguish fire at BWL Delta Energy Park plant forests, as the 1988 Yellowstone fire demonstrated. would cause them to ignite and in turn create a fire storm that incinerates The hunter may face some sort of charge but the other two will definitely face criminal charges including murder as several people have died as a result of this fire.
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