Annie Santillan says she surreptitiously recorded the call because David's mistress had been harassing her. After this mistake I realized I went against everything i believed in regarding both sides of the story and said enough of this drama bullshit . "You're my everything, you're my ride or die, you're my everything. (You must log in or sign up to reply here. The #1 Biker News Website Since 2011-Covering up to minute biker news including Outlaw Motorcycle Clubs & Biker News Worldwide. Mr. Santillan said it was ridiculous to think that Mr. Ciccone smoothed things over for him. The Mongols are now claiming that throughout their attempt to defend the club in the long-running criminal case, their own leader was secretly talking to the government. It wasnt the entire Mongols Nation that threw him under the bus but a few that fed creators who thought these people were representing the clubs voice. David Santillan, the president of the Mongols, was ousted by the group after a video surfaced that implied he was being protected by a federal agent.CreditMichael Tyrone Delaney for The New York Times. Never in my life have I ever implicated anybody in the club for some kind of nefarious activity. John looked out not just for me but the club, Mr. Santillan said. You can now listen to full episodes of the podcast right from the app. ). Episode Website. Mr. Santillan walking into a federal courthouse in Santa Ana, Calif., during the 2018 racketeering trial against the Mongols. Mr. Ciccone, who retired last year, testified that Mr. Santillan never served as an informant for the agency, nor did he pass on any defense information during the trial. The Mongols have been fixtures on the biker scene since 1969, when the club was founded in Montebello, Calif. Mr. Santillan said it was ridiculous to think that Mr. Ciccone smoothed things over for him. Mongols Motorcycle Club says LIL Dave was an informant as they head back to court June 5, 2022 A new episode of Motorcycle Madhouse with Hollywood & Chinadoll Mon-Fri. Get with the Insanity on all major Podcast Platforms David Santillan says he was thrown out of the Mongols after a "closed door" meeting where he did not get a chance to refute the allegations against him. During the almost 13 years he led the Mongols, Mr. Santillan appeared to steer the organization away from its past recruitment of Mexican criminal gang members and a culture of total underworld activity that the feds feasted on, in terms of prosecutions, said William Dulaney, an expert on motorcycle groups who was formerly an associate professor of national security at the U.S. Air Forces Air Command and Staff College. #MONGOLSMC #MONGOLS #LILDAVEFor more than two decades, federal law enforcement authorities pursued the Mongols, a notorious motorcycle club whose members had a long history of murder, assault, drug dealing and robbery.In 2018, the government scored a victory of sorts. Discussion in 'Mayberry Lounge' started by Pliny Pete, Jul 18, 2021. Mr. Santillan said he talked with the A.T.F. Everyone has their opinion of went down and how everything was covered. Copyright 2023 KABC Television, LLC. Copyright 2023 KABC Television, LLC. In 2018, the government scored a victory of sorts. Mr. Dulaney said that Mr. Santillan instituted new policies, like no more club-driven drug business, and made it mandatory that members had to have a motorcycle and things like a valid drivers license and registration and a job.. In court testimony and in an earlier interview, Ms. Santillan said she had shared the video and the text with the Mongols in an attempt to destroy her husband but had since regretted it; she said she was not being truthful when she claimed he had been an informant. He said they discussed matters such as public safety when the Mongols or other clubs were planning parties or motorcycle rallies to ensure that members stayed in line and that rival groups kept their distance. Mongols Motorcycle Club Says Its Leader Was an Informant, https://www.nytimes.com/2022/06/05/us/mongols-new-trial.html. In 2018, the government scored a victory of sorts. Subscribe to our Insane Throttle YouTube channel for a wide range of biker shows and news Two years after a federal jury found the notorious Mongols Motorcycle Club a criminal organization, lawyers for the club are asking a judge for a new trial accusing its former president of being a secret government informant and [] Ruben Cavazos (born December 28, 1956) is an American criminal, and former International President of the Mongols Motorcycle Club.His autobiography, Honor Few, Fear None: The Life & Times of a Mongol, was published by HarperCollins in 2008. Prosecutors convinced a jury in California that these crimes were not just the result of individual bikers behaving badly, but the work of an organized criminal enterprise that had participated in a campaign of mayhem. The saying 99% and 1% is very true at this moment in time- Most bikers who are the 99% and majority can care less about motorcycle clubs anymore- Its fading and fading fast. Mr. Santillan said he talked with the A.T.F. Ms. Santillan said that she now felt horrible about disclosing the communications and that her husband was not, in fact, an informant. Lil Dave, the president of the Mongols motorcycle club, was caught cheating on his wife s o she decided to revenge his ass by putting this video on Youtube which shows him supposedly. More Episodes. Join u. AboutPressCopyrightContact. New features, smoother menu and backgrounds- PLUS!! Judge Carter conducted an extensive inquiry to unearth any evidence that Mr. Santillan had cooperated with law enforcement and acknowledged his difficulty in explaining away the contents of the video. 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After Judge Carters ruling, he declared vindication in what he said was a contrived internal political witch hunt to smear my name and to get me dethroned.. Yanny played a clip from a National Geographic show segment on the Mongols in court as evidence of their relationship. told the court that she had checked an agency database containing information on confidential informants dating back to 2002, and that Mr. Santillan did not come up as one. Prosecutors convinced a jury in California that these crimes were not just the result of individual bikers behaving badly, but the work of an organized criminal enterprise that had participated in a campaign of mayhem. He and his wife, Annie, were estranged after he had an affair. READ ALSO | Was head of OC biker gang a 'rat'? On Thursday last week, The Suit was downtown at a pre-trial hearing in the case of David Martinez, accused of killing Pomona Police Officer Shaun Diamond in November. But the group that was once the most powerful biker organization in the West other than its archrivals, the Hells Angels, is returning to court next week, hoping to set aside the racketeering and conspiracy convictions based on what it says is new evidence about its previous leader, David Santillan. Just my thought as I have no horse in this race, Insane Throttle Support Club Become a member Now, Insane Throttle/Motorcycle Madhouse Radio YouTube and Audio Disclaimer, Meet the Insane Throttle Contributing Columnist James Hollywood Macecari, Motorcycle Clubs Riding Clubs and Associations Near Me Index & Listings, Our Policies here at Insane Throttle Publications. Interview with Former International President LIL Dave from the Mongols MC - Insane Throttle Biker News mongols motorcycle club Interview with Former International President LIL Dave from the Mongols MC November 11, 2021 Live with Former Mongol MC Int. David Santillan was the president of the Mongols motorcycle club for. "He goes, I know you've been doing a bang-up job at the club, can't protect you from this point forward," Santillan recounted of their conversation. There's a new twist in a federal case already marked by murder and mayhem. Eyewitness News has obtained the video that was recorded in June of 2021 when David Santillan was drunk and despondent. Mongols biker club is denied new racketeering trial after claims its leader was informant Mongols members walk over the 6th Street Viaduct in Los Angeles. Lil Dave is the former International President of the Mongols Motorcycle Club. Mr. Santillan has acknowledged that he talked often with Mr. Ciccone for a period of years, usually in the presence of other Mongols members. In their petition, the Mongols argue that Mr. Santillan could have been pressured to leak strategy and other information to the government as a result of lenient treatment the defense claimed he received during his brushes with the law. (Photo by The Associated Press). The U.S. Attorney's office asked him whether he is - or ever was - any sort of informant for the ATF or for any state or federal agency. A jury sided with the prosecution in 2019 and ordered the group to give up the emblem, but Judge David O. Carter rejected the verdict as an infringement on the clubs constitutional rights. Desperate ideas explained, Memphis Police Department officers were impeding care of Tyre Nichols, EMT says | CNN, Marine Corps eliminating its elite scout sniper platoons. He's accused of being a confidential informant and working with the government during the Mongols' trial after his wife,. Well let you guys have your fun, but keep your people in check, so to speak, he testified in June. LIL DAVE WAS COMPROMISED AFRAID AND TURNED ON HIS CLUB. And he was tireless, Mr. DAlesio said. As for Mr. Ciccone, he had mastered the craft of executing complex investigations using everything from undercovers to informants to wiretaps to subpoenas and surveillance, said Frank DAlesio, a retired A.T.F. "I think they got David in compromising situations," Yanny tells Eyewitness News. Cavazos was raised by his father in Highland Park, Los Angeles, California and joined the Avenues, a Mexican American street gang, at an early age before . "I know we've had a rapport and I always looked out for you and you were always respectful. Testimony resumed for a hearing in which a judge will decided if the Mongols Motorcycle Club will get a new trial after being convicted of conspiracy and racketeering in 2018. Club attorneys are seeking a new trial, alleging that former Mongols President David Santillan was secretly a government "rat" who served as a confidential informant for a then-agent with the . Now the Mongols want a new trial and say their former president, David Santillan, was a confidential informant for the ATF. "I was literally trying to destroy him," she answered, adding that she didn't understand what he was talking about in relation to Ciccone. It became clear that Dave had betrayed the club, his oath and everything we hold sacred, the club said in a statement. The #1 Biker News Website Since 2011-Covering up to minute biker news including Outlaw Motorcycle Clubs & Biker News Worldwide. All rights reserved. I think it would be time to really clean house over there, anyone that lil Dave came in contact with on a regular basis would have to go? He and his wife, Annie, were estranged after he had an affair. Former Mongols President David Santillan continued to testify. "I want Ciccone here under oath," Judge Carter told the prosecution team. He cant protect me, he told me, so we have to have an exit strategy, he told me, an apparently agitated Mr. Santillan said to her. The California motorcycle group had claimed that its former president, David Santillan, was a government informant. He alleges that Santillan sabotaged the trial by not allowing him to call Ciccone to the stand. I take the hit on this one because I shouldve waited for his side- But I always take a the word of a club member and this time it was a mistake. After one year he's done and he can't protect me, so we have to have an exit strategy.". 02:34 LIL Dave is all over the main stream, 04:10 Why did lil dave not want ciccone on the stand, 06:45 Our invitation for Ciccone to come on the show, 15:14 Mongol Lawyer thinks LIL DAVE WAS COMPROMISED AFRAID AND TURNED ON HIS CLUB. In exchange, the club said in its motion, the agent appears to have spared Mr. Santillan from serious legal consequences for several offenses since 2011. He explained: We wanted them to know we were there monitoring.. Carter went on to tell prosecutors he does not want their witnesses to use the words "to the best of my recollection.". The original case attracted widespread attention because of the federal governments unusual attempt to force the Mongols to forfeit their rights to the clubs trademarked logo a drawing of a brawny Genghis Khan-like figure riding a chopper while brandishing a sword and thus relinquish a big source of the organizations mystique. If MCs want to be seen as a club then stop all the violence, the general public can see through all the BS, as can those who are a part of this scene and want nothing to do with clubs. Nor do I believe that there would be, quite frankly, an acquittal in a second trial., Mr. Santillan, who led the Mongols for nearly 13 years until he was voted out of the club in July of last year, vehemently denied that he had ever betrayed the group. The California motorcycle group had claimed that its former president, David Santillan, was a government informant. Former Mongols President David Santillan continued to testify. The only thing he is guilty of is talking to John a lot and having some kind of rapport with him, she said in an interview. "He was afraid, and I think he turned on his loyalty to the club to protect himself. LOS ANGELES (KABC) -- There's a new twist in a federal case already marked by murder and mayhem. Former Mongols Biker Club Leader Denies He Was Ever a Rat The Mongols Motorcycle Club allege that their former president David Santillan was a confidential informant during their RICO. He was the guy outside all the time providing cover support in case something went wrong with the undercovers.. A petition for a new trial and reversal of the half-million-dollar fine, which is scheduled for an initial hearing on Monday in the U.S. District Court in Santa Ana, Calif., claims that Mr. Santillan, 52, covertly cooperated for years with a special agent from the federal Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives. If youre a rat, youre the scum of the earth, he said in an interview. This wasnt the case . The current national leaders of the Mongols said they were convinced that the clubs former president, who controlled the Mongols defense team, had acted improperly. This is the final statement on this because honestly it's mundane and boring. Marshal that Mr. Santillan and Mr. Ciccone had been seen chatting at a Starbucks near the courthouse. So, she sent the recording along with a text message to two other members of the Mongols Motorcycle Club. Black Dragon's Sunday Night Round Table discusses Insane Throttle's live interview with former Mongol's MC Nation's International President Lil' Dave. As a subscriber, you have 10 gift articles to give each month. The current national leaders of the Mongols said they were convinced that the clubs former president, who controlled the Mongols defense team, had acted improperly. Now its at a point where guns, instead of fist are used to settle things. The ultimate implications for society are paramount here, he said. In the video, Ms. Santillan was talking to her husband on speakerphone when he told her that Mr. Ciccone was retiring. I've heard out of his mouth personally a couple of years ago that they were trying to avoid any issues with any clubs and trying to stay quiet as not to bring attention to themselves because of the . Then the conversation, which she was. "It was an improper line of communication, particularly for a law enforcement personnel trying to convict an entity of being a criminal organization," Yanny said. As for Mr. Ciccone, he had mastered the craft of executing complex investigations using everything from undercovers to informants to wiretaps to subpoenas and surveillance, said Frank DAlesio, a retired A.T.F. "I assumed it was going to be her, so we videotaped," Annie Santillan tells Eyewitness News. Lil Dave, the president of the Mongols motorcycle club, was caught cheating on his wife so she decided to revenge his ass by putting this video on Youtube which shows him supposedly. Michael Tyrone Delaney for The New York Times. 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That quest to seize the Mongols patch was part of a criminal case brought by the U.S. Attorneys Office in 2013 under the Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations Act. Jesse gave other Mongols more of the same. The government has filed a separate appeal on that issue, seeking a narrower forfeiture order that would take away the clubs right to trademark exclusivity over the logo. John looked out not just for me but the club, Mr. Santillan said. The U.S. Attorneys Office had earlier tried and failed to force the Mongols to forfeit their rights to the clubs trademarked logo, a drawing of a brawny Genghis Khan-like figure riding a chopper while brandishing a sword, a landmark case that prosecutors felt would help weaken the club by undermining its visual identity. For more than two decades, federal law enforcement authorities pursued the Mongols, a notorious motorcycle club whose members had a long history of murder, assault, drug dealing and robbery. The judge will most likely consider a series of procedural matters on Monday, lawyers said, with additional hearings expected before any final ruling. Santillan says he ran into Ciccone when he went to pick up some Mongols property that had been released after the trial. If youre going to listen to a dude that does nothing but market gimmicks AKA CULTURE VULTURE, on YouTube, part of the scene with no time in at all, thats on you. These registrations are something that need to be examined by the circuit, maybe the Supreme Court.. It became clear that Dave had betrayed the club, his oath and everything we hold sacred, the club said in a statement. Jonathan Turley, a constitutional law expert at George Washington University, said that if a federal agent was seeking confidential information about a criminal defense, that would be an extraordinary transgression.. Clubs used to represent more than territory, it was about freedom and doing what you wanted. "It grew to become clear that Dave had betrayed the membership, his oath and all the pieces we maintain sacred," the membership stated in an announcement. In my opinion, the only reason the government brought this RICO case was to take another run at the patch, having failed each time in the past, said George L. Steele, a lawyer for the Mongols who is handling a separate appeal in the case. Its a new age now, TIk Toc, FB,IG they are all doing it and worse of all creators on YouTube. This is the final statement on this because honestly its mundane and boring. "I wanted him to feel kind of what I was feeling, the shame and embarrassment and betrayal. It is the First Amendment issues associated with the case that are most important, Judge Carter said on Thursday, and whether the government has the right to seize control of a trademarked emblem as a way of eliminating a groups ability to operate and recruit. Federal prosecutors have been focusing on the Mongols logo since 2008. The judge will most likely consider a series of procedural matters on Monday, lawyers said, with additional hearings expected before any final ruling. One of the clubs defense lawyers during the original trial, Stephen Stubbs, testified that Mr. Santillan had told him during the trial that he was regularly meeting with Mr. Ciccone as the proceedings were going on, even as he was overseeing the clubs defense team.
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